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GGSN(sgsn)發(fā)起modify pdp context request重新協(xié)商qos的觸發(fā)條件是什么??
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發(fā)表于 2010-06-24 09:19:40  只看樓主 
請(qǐng)高手出馬!在IU口信令中,發(fā)現(xiàn)MS激活成功后,在傳輸一定的數(shù)據(jù)后網(wǎng)絡(luò)發(fā)起modify pdp context request消息要求改變qos,把速率降下來!請(qǐng)高手解釋下促使網(wǎng)絡(luò)發(fā)起的條件是什么?????????????
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    發(fā)表于 2010-06-24 09:44:23 
    沒有接觸過

    對(duì)于業(yè)務(wù),有四種,interactive、background、streaming、conversational
    會(huì)不會(huì)一開始的時(shí)候使用了一種業(yè)務(wù),比如視頻,后來又要WAP下載,這兩種業(yè)務(wù)需要不同的QoS,因此才會(huì)要求修改?

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    發(fā)表于 2010-06-24 09:54:20  只看樓主 
    是FTP下載!從Gn信令看到下載過程中沒有數(shù)據(jù)的傳輸,只有FTP信令的交互,而且在重傳!在IU口信令中看到,在網(wǎng)絡(luò)發(fā)起了modify后,RAB釋放并重新建立了新的RAB!

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    281511:20:480DownlinkRANAPCommonID
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    282111:20:4851UplinkGMMSMActivate PDP Context Request
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    298011:20:568098DownlinkGMMSMModify PDP Context Request(Network to MS direction)
    298311:20:579028UplinkGMMSMModify PDP Context Accept (MS to network direction)
    298411:20:579030DownlinkRANAPRAB_AssignmentRequest
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    這個(gè)是另外一個(gè)FTP服務(wù)器IU口信令,他可以正常FTP下載,維持較高的速率!
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    236811:43:4114UplinkRANAPSecurityModeControlComplete
    237611:43:4130UplinkGMMSMActivate PDP Context Request
    237711:43:4133DownlinkRANAPRAB_AssignmentRequest
    239811:43:431950UplinkRANAPRAB_AssignmentResponse
    239911:43:431952DownlinkGMMSMActivate PDP Context Accept
    415111:45:0886966UplinkGMMSMDeactivate PDP Context Request
    415211:45:0886969DownlinkGMMSMDeactivate PDP Context Accept
    415611:45:0886990DownlinkRANAPRAB_AssignmentRequest
    418311:45:1089002UplinkRANAPRAB_AssignmentResponse
    418411:45:1089004DownlinkRANAPIu_ReleaseCommand
    419011:45:1089013UplinkRANAPIu_ReleaseComplete

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    發(fā)表于 2010-06-24 10:18:28 
    能否看到手機(jī)PDP請(qǐng)求、PDP成功以及PDP修改的時(shí)候,QoS的哪些參數(shù)變化了?

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    發(fā)表于 2010-06-24 10:25:57 
    4PDP Context Modification
    An SGSN can, due to subscriber data changes, modify parameters that were negotiated during the PDP context activation procedure. For example, the QoS and radio priority parameters can be modified.

    The following PDP context modification procedures are supported:

    MS-Initiated PDP Context Modification
    SGSN-Initiated PDP Context Modification
    GGSN-Initiated PDP Context Modification
    RNC-Initiated PDP Context Modification
    When an SGSN is requested to modify a PDP context, it transparently forwards the protocol configuration option received from the MS to the GGSN, or in the other direction, from the GGSN to the MS.

    To determine the PLMN in which the MS is located, the Mobile Country Code (MCC) and Mobile Network Code (MNC) where the MS is registered are forwarded to the GGSN. When using the GPRS Tunneling Protocol version 1 (GTPv1), the IMEISV and the radio access technology employed (GSM or WCDMA) are also forwarded. The forwarding of MCC, MNC, IMEISV, and radio access technology is handled through Access Aware Core Edge (AACE). The function of AACE is partly restricted when the SGSN is configured to support multiple PLMNs. In this case, the SGSN does not indicate a change of MCC and MNC at an Intra-SGSN RAU.

    4.1MS-Initiated Modification
    An MS might request PDP context modification to change the negotiated QoS. WCDMA System MS might also request it to reestablish preserved RABs.

    4.1.1Traffic Case
    The MS-Initiated PDP Context Modification procedure is shown in Figure 4.



    Figure 4MS-Initiated PDP Context Modification Procedure

    The following steps describe the MS-Initiated PDP Context Modification procedure:

    The MS sends a Modify PDP Context Request message to the SGSN.
    The SGSN sends the GGSN an Update PDP Context Request message, which optionally includes the protocol configuration option.
    The GGSN responds with an Update PDP Context Response message to the SGSN. For no response, see Section 4.5.
    For GSM, the SGSN exchanges information related to ongoing user data transmission with the BSS, and initiates modification of the Packet Flow Context, see Section 6.
    For WCDMA Systems, the SGSN and RNC exchange information for modifying the RABs between the MS and the SGSN, see Section 7.2.

    For WCDMA Systems, the radio bearer between the RNC and the MS is modified, or released and reestablished, see Section 7.2.
    The SGSN sends a Modify PDP Context Accept message to the MS.
    4.2SGSN-Initiated Modification
    The SGSN can initiate a PDP Context Modification procedure, for example, if the MS performs a RAU to a new RNC or BSC offering a different QoS.

    In GSM, the BSC can also request the SGSN to initiate a PDP Context Modification, for example, due to load changes.

    4.2.1Traffic Case
    The SGSN-Initiated PDP Context Modification procedure is shown in Figure 5.



    Figure 5SGSN-Initiated PDP Context Modification Procedure

    The following steps describe the SGSN-Initiated PDP Context Modification procedure:

    The SGSN sends an Update PDP Context Request message to the GGSN, for example, to negotiate a new QoS.
    The GGSN responds with an Update PDP Context Response message to the SGSN. For no response, see Section 4.5.
    For GSM, the SGSN exchanges information related to ongoing user data transmission with the BSS, and initiates a modification of the Packet Flow Context, see Section 6.
    The SGSN sends a Modify PDP Context Request message to the MS.
    The MS responds with a Modify PDP Context Accept message to the SGSN. For no response, see Section 4.5.
    For WCDMA Systems, the SGSN and RNC exchange information on RAB modification for payload traffic between the MS and the SGSN, see Section 7.2.
    For WCDMA Systems, the radio bearer between the RNC and the MS is either modified, or released and reestablished, see Section 7.2.
    4.3GGSN-Initiated Modification
    When radio resources are released due to inactivity, out of coverage or circuit-switched calls, the core network preserves the streaming and conversational bearers by modifying the Maximum Bit Rate (MBR) and Guaranteed Bit Rate (GBR) to zero in the SGSN and GGSN. Thus, to prevent the GGSN from dropping downlink packets due to the modification of bit rates, the SGSN optionally supports that a GGSN initiates a PDP Context Modification procedure when downlink packets arrive.

    Note that this procedure is a supplement to the existing 3GPP standard and requires a GGSN with corresponding support, for example Ericsson GGSN R4.

    The GGSN-Initiated Modification procedure is only applicable when Operator QoS Control is activated. In case the feature is deactivated, the GGSN signaling is ignored by the SGSN.

    4.3.1Traffic Case
    The GGSN-Initiated PDP Context Modification procedure is illustrated in Figure 6.



    Figure 6GGSN-Initiated PDP Context Modification Procedure

    The following steps describe the GGSN-Initiated PDP Context Modification procedure:

    Upon reception of downlink packets for preserved streaming and conversational bearers, the SGSN receives an Update PDP Context Request message with a modified MBR and GBR to the SGSN.
    The SGSN sends a Modify PDP Context Request message to the MS.
    The MS responds with a Modify PDP Context Accept to the SGSN. When no response, see Section 4.5.
    For GSM, the SGSN and BSS exchange information related to ongoing user data transmission, and initiates a modification of the Packet Flow Context, see Section 6.
    For WCDMA Systems, the SGSN and RNC exchange information on RAB modification for payload traffic between the MS and the SGSN, see Section 7.2.

    For WCDMA Systems, the radio bearer between the RNC and the MS is either modified, or released and reestablished, see Section 7.2.
    The SGSN sends an Update PDP Context Response message to the GGSN.
    4.4RNC-Initiaded Modification
    For congestion and coverage reasons, the RNC is allowed to initiate a modification of MBR and GBR for existing streaming and conversational bearers. More specifically, the RNC sends an RAB Modify Request message to the SGSN, triggering an SGSN-Initiated PDP Context Modification procedure as described in Section 4.2. For more information on RAB modification, see Section 7.2.

    4.5Modification Reject
    If the SGSN does not receive an Update PDP Context Response message from the GGSN within a time specified by the Gn_T3-ResponseUpdate parameter, the SGSN retransmits the Update PDP Context Request message to the GGSN a number of times specified by the Gn_N3-RequestsUpdate. If no response appears after last retransmission the modification procedure is rejected. Also when the Update PDP Context Response message indicate the request is not accepted, the modification procedure is rejected. At rejection, if the modification procedure was initiated by the MS, the PDP context remains active with the same QoS, except for when the GGSN lacks a PDP context. If the modification procedure was initiated by the SGSN, the PDP context is deactivated at rejection.

    If, during an SGSN- or GGSN-initiated modification procedure, the SGSN does not receive a Modify PDP Context Accept message from the MS within a time specified by the T3386 parameter, the SGSN retransmits the Update PDP Context Request message. If no response appears after last retransmission the PDP context is deactivated.

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    發(fā)表于 2010-06-24 10:34:45 
    7RAB Handling (WCDMA Systems Only)
    In WCDMA Systems, RABs are used for user data transport between the SGSN and the MSs over the RAN. For the SGSN to send and receive payload over the RAN, an RAB must be present for each PDP context.

    The RAB Assignment Request and Response messages are used when assigning, modifying, and releasing RABs, but the content carried by the messages varies depending on the procedure.

    7.1Assignment
    To request an RAB for a PDP context, the SGSN sends an RAB Assignment Request message (with the type setup) to the RNC. The RNC returns an RAB Assignment Response message to the SGSN, and establishes the RAB between the MS and the SGSN.

    If the RNC returns an RAB Assignment Response message with a cause indicating that the requested QoS profile can not be provided, which means, the requested MBR is not available, the SGSN sends a new RAB Assignment Request message with another QoS profile. A new RAB Assignment Request message can also be sent due to other causes.

    If the SGSN has not received an RAB Assignment response message within the time specified by the Iu_TRABAssgt parameter, the RAB Assignment procedure has failed.

    In the RAB Assignment Request message, the SGSN includes optional alternative RAB parameters for QoS negotiation with the RNC. The parameters consist of fallback values, MBR and GBR, applicable if the RNC is unable to provide the requested values. The parameters are given in an unspecified format, that is, negotiation is allowed but no alternative values are provided by the core network. Thus, the RNC is allowed to assign any value equal to or below the values indicated in the requested parameters.

    The SGSN can simplify assignment of RABs by listing all RABs for an MS in one RAB Assigment Request message to the RNC. If the RNC rejects the assignment request, the SGSN stores the information that the RNC in question does not support setup of a list of RABs, and, in the following assignment attempts directed to the RNC the SGSN sends one RAB Assignment Request message for each RAB in the list.

    7.1.1Reestablishment
    When an RAB for an active PDP context has been released, it must be reestablished to be able to transfer downlink and uplink payload. The reestablishment is initiated when the SGSN receives a downlink packet or a Service Request (see Section 8) from an MS over a PDP context with no active RAB. If the MS is in the PMM-IDLE Mobility Management (MM) state, the reestablishment after a downlink packet is received is initiated with a paging request.

    If no active Iu connection exists, it must be restored before the RABs can be assigned again. For more information, see Mobility Management.

    7.2Modification
    An RAB can be modified, for example, when the QoS must be renegotiated with the RNC. If the RAB Modification procedure is supported by the RNC, or if the SGSN does not know whether it is supported or not, the SGSN sends an RAB Assignment Request message (with the type modify) to the RNC to request to modify the RAB for a PDP context. The RNC responds with an RAB Assignment Response message, and modifies the RAB between the MS and the SGSN. If a response is not received within a time specified by the Iu_TRABAssgt parameter, the modification procedure is rejected and the SGSN releases its part of the RAB.

    The SGSN can store information about that an RNC supports RAB modification. This information is dynamically stored based on the result from the first modification attempt with a specific RNC. If RAB modification is supported, the SGSN assigns the type modify to the RAB Assignment Request message. If the RNC does not support this, or if the SGSN does not know whether or not it is supported, the SGSN first releases the RAB and then establishes a new RAB, as described in Section 7.3 and Section 7.1.

    7.3Release
    An RAB can be released even though the PDP context is still active. This can occur, for example, due to inactivity, break of radio connection, an error indication from the RNC, an Inter-SGSN RAU, or an Inter-System Change (between GSM and WCDMA Systems).

    When the last RAB is released, the Iu connection is also released.

    When the SGSN receives an RAB Release Request message from the RNC, it sends back an RAB Assignment Request message (with the type release). The RNC responds with an RAB Assignment Response message, and releases the RAB between the MS and the SGSN. If the SGSN receives a RAB Release Request message containing a list of RABs, all RABs are released.

    If an RAB Assignment response message from an RNC is not received by the SGSN within the time specified by the Iu_TRABAssgt parameter, the SGSN still releases its part of the RAB.

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    發(fā)表于 2010-06-24 10:51:08  只看樓主 
    Quality Of Service - Negotiated QoS
    Length: 11
    ..10 0... = Delay class: Delay class 4 (best effort) (4)
    .... .011 = Reliability class: Delay class 3 (3)
    Peak throughput: (6) Up to 32 000 octet/s
    Precedence class: (2) Normal priority
    Mean throughput: (31) Best effort
    100. .... = Traffic class: Background class (4)
    ...1 0... = Delivery order: Streaming class (2)
    .... ..11 = Delivery of erroneous SDUs: Erroneous SDUs are not delivered('No') (3)
    Maximum SDU size: (150) 1500 octets
    Maximum bit rate for uplink: (64) 64kbps
    Maximum bit rate for downlink: (104) 384kbps
    0111 .... = Residual Bit Error Rate (BER): 1*10-5 (7)
    .... 0100 = SDU error ratio: 1*10-4 (4)
    Transfer Delay: (32) 1000ms
    Traffic Handling priority: (1) Priority level 1
    Guaranteed bit rate for uplink: (255) 0kbps
    Guaranteed bit rate for downlink: (255) 0kbps


    Quality Of Service - New QoS
    Length: 11
    ..10 0... = Delay class: Delay class 4 (best effort) (4)
    .... .011 = Reliability class: Delay class 3 (3)
    Peak throughput: (2) Up to 2 000 octet/s
    Precedence class: (2) Normal priority
    Mean throughput: (31) Best effort
    100. .... = Traffic class: Background class (4)
    ...1 0... = Delivery order: Streaming class (2)
    .... ..11 = Delivery of erroneous SDUs: Erroneous SDUs are not delivered('No') (3)
    Maximum SDU size: (150) 1500 octets
    Maximum bit rate for uplink: (8) 8kbps
    Maximum bit rate for downlink: (16) 16kbps
    0111 .... = Residual Bit Error Rate (BER): 1*10-5 (7)
    .... 0100 = SDU error ratio: 1*10-4 (4)
    Transfer Delay: (32) 1000ms
    Traffic Handling priority: (1) Priority level 1
    Guaranteed bit rate for uplink: (255) 0kbps
    Guaranteed bit rate for downlink: (255) 0kbps

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    很明顯,速率要求降下來!而且很低
    Maximum bit rate for uplink: (8) 8kbps
    Maximum bit rate for downlink: (16) 16kbps

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    發(fā)表于 2010-06-24 11:30:05 
    對(duì)于
    Maximum bit rate for uplink(MBRU)Maximum bit rate for downlink(MBRD)
    在SGSN、HLR都可以設(shè)置
    在SGSN即可對(duì)所有的用戶設(shè)置 ,也可以對(duì)部分號(hào)段 或 單個(gè)號(hào)碼進(jìn)行設(shè)置
    HLR可以對(duì)單個(gè)用戶設(shè)置

    沒有研究過GGSN,不知道GGSN是否可以設(shè)置MBRD和MBRU

    可以檢查一下HLR和SGSN的數(shù)據(jù)

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    發(fā)表于 2010-06-24 21:42:46  只看樓主 
    在對(duì)應(yīng)的Gn口信令已經(jīng)找到了update pdp context 消息,是由GGSN下發(fā)的,也就是說是GGSN發(fā)起的qos協(xié)商更改使得速率一下子下來了。接下來可以從GGSN著手查,可能是前段時(shí)間在搞QOS測(cè)試時(shí)配置引起的,謝謝樓上的兄弟了!呵呵

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    發(fā)表于 2010-09-06 13:35:02  QQ
    哎,資質(zhì)愚鈍,還是沒搞懂。!

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    發(fā)表于 2011-01-05 10:17:01 
    mark。。。。。不錯(cuò)哦~~~

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